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Update on 1 Hotel Seattle – Already raising prices?

October 25th, 2007 · Comments · By Matt

What is going on with 1 Hotel and Residences these days?

For one (no pun intended) I noticed they added 9 units to the MLS so we can all rubber neck: Redfin search. The cheapest unit is #1213. $559,000 for 692 square feet or $802/sq. ft. The most expensive is #2202 at close to $12 million for 7000 square feet. Yes that’s only $1,710/sq ft. Now those are Manhattan prices. And HOAs start at $1200 for a condo but only $600 for a suite.

Of course the Stranger mocks those who can buy flashy downtown rarely used condos in Re: Living in Heaven:

Here’s the selling point: The environmental footprint of the condos is a women’s size 2, so empty nesters can, with a clear conscience, buy a condo (for $1 million to $5 million) that they use only two months a year.

And the Seattle PI has article devoted to 1 (those PR people are certainly earning their retainer!) Buy a hotel suite for less than $1.4 million — no guarantees. The article explains the condo/hotel idea in general and how it applies to 1:

The hotel will sign five-year rental agreements with each owner, and room revenue will be split 50/50 after initial fees are deducted. That means, Raymond explained, that the units do not belong to a rental pool where the revenue from all rooms is divided among owners.

I especially like this bit:

“This is an unusual vehicle for financing that we just started seeing in the last five years,” said Chris Burdett, senior managing director at PKF Capital, a division of Colliers International. He is not affiliated with the project.

To buy a hotel room only as an investment can be dangerous — especially because it requires hotel business savvy, Burdett said.

“It’s a whole different level of investment that your layman is not going to understand,” Burdett said. “It’s new enough to be a little bit dangerous. Some people like that — it’s a new industry, it’s exciting. You get your foot into the hotel world without spending $100 million.”

An investor would have no idea of knowing whether a Seattle hotel room would gain value because the concept is new, he said, also questioning whether monthly cash flow would cover the owner’s debt expense.

1 Hotel’s management says it is selling real estate — not an investment.

Remember the other new financing vehicles introduced over the last five years and how those turned out?

The article also mentions current reservation to sales activity:

The 1 Hotel plans to convert its condo reservations to sale on Monday and the hotel suites on Nov. 10. So far, 100 people have reserved hotel suites and 30 have reserved condos.

According to someone who has a reservation that is about to convert they are raising prices after people have contracts for a lower price range. As with the other buildings that have done reservations and then jacked prices (Escala) I’m sure we’ll see less than 50% of those reservations convert to purchase and sale.

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  • HOAs were cheap at $600 for a suite but in the current economic climate, it is expensive.
  • No trouble. By the way, Pabla is OK but definitely not as good as India Bistro.
  • Nolaguy
    Thanks for the reply, dunno.

    I'm interested to see what happens, and will be watching the hole closely.

    Nice blog, btw. I live by the market and appreciate downtown viewpoints.
  • They stopped construction due to traffic rules in downtown during the holidays. That's the official story anyways. I think that they are still trying to get their act together. There has been numerous changes to their plans. It might be nothing unusual since it is going to be the first "Hotel 1" and they need to iron out the kinks. However, I wonder if some of this is because the full residential units (not hotel-condo units) are selling slowly.
  • Nolaguy
    I walk by this project every day.

    For the last 3 months, it's been an empty hole in the ground with *no* activity going on. Not one person around and a fence around the entire project. Not one piece of equipment either.

    Anyone know what's going on?
  • richard
    Christian, thanks for the recommendation on The Rebel Sell. I've been watching this "green" fad and the ex-hippie baby boomers eating it up and wondering why more people don't see it for what it is - and excuse to not feel guilty about spending gobs of money.
  • christiangustafson
    Seattle's First eco-luxury urban resort, 1Seattle proves that style and sustainability can coexist.

    That's it. I'm no longer worried about the hordes of unemployed REALTORs and former mortgage brokers that are going to be eating out of my garbage can in the coming years.

    I'm worried about the marketeers. The sneaky scribes who write this crap and can it for public consumption. What are these people going to do with themselves when there are smoking craters where banks once stood, pathetic penniless Baby Boomers everywhere, and the entire REIC is in a soup line for the next decade?

    I think it's hilarious that in the last couple of years the "green living" fad came into vogue. But beyond what we used to call common sense (that a McMansion is wasteful and ugly, etc), the marketeers are selling us on the idea that buying their product will make us virtuous. I can't laugh hard enough seeing overpriced RE developments fly this banner.

    There's a terrific book by a couple of sensible lib Canadian academics called The Rebel Sell. It exposes again and again how transparent these efforts to sell us something under an ideological veil. I recommend it highly as an aid to see through our choking Kultursmog.
  • nitsuj
    i had to laugh at the trump baja half banner on the page. i've driven by it many times this summer and i always wonder who in the heck would want to buy a place in baja? it's not nearly as nice as they make it look (baja that is)
  • al
    And HOAs start at $1200 for a condo but only $600 for a suite.

    Wow! HOAs are only $600 for a hotel suite? That's pretty steep.
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