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Only 25 Registered for Gallery Auction?

September 11th, 2009 by Matt · 16 Comments · Brix, Gallery

Have folks been to check out Brix and Gallery?

I hear from owners at Gallery that their building has been busy with lots of folks into see the units. However, this post in the Redfin forums indicates that only 25 people have registered for the Gallery auction. Personally, it seems like my friends and acquaintances are more interested in the Brix auction but I haven’t heard how many people have registered for it.

The reaction I’m hearing from owners is mixed; they’re conflicted as they want their buildings to sell out but at the same time seeing a similar unit with a minimum price half of what you just paid can be disheartening to say the least. You can also say goodbye to re-financing. But on the other hand there’s an opportunity to dollar cost average down by buying a neighboring unit or two.

In terms of why Schnitzer is auctioning off a large subset of units the reasoning they give is that they want to set a new market price for the remainder of their units. However, I’ve heard some speculate that with the language of the auction contract stipulating that deals must close by October 27th that a large balance of their initial construction loan may be coming due at the end of October.

How is this impacting others buying and selling? I see that numerous condos continue to come on the market. But to list your condo as 83 units head to the auction block seems foolish. I certainly wouldn’t buy a place until I saw the results of the auction, even if I wasn’t interested in Brix or Gallery.

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  • Hudson

    “Dollar cost averaging” on condo's in this economy makes zero economic sense. Rather than trying to catch a falling knife, it's more logical to just write off the value your condo has lost in the medium term.

    The WAMU Centre just sold for less than 40% of it's previous price, so all of the developers like Schnitzer are in a major financing squeeze. Schnitzer has so many new office buildings vacant that their bank must be extremely nervous.

  • Eric K

    Did you see the New York Times article that showed Seattle was #1 in troubled construction loans? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/business/econ

    I bet Schnitzer is a big part of that, with Brix, Gallery, and their two buildings next to the Cosmo. The recent sale of the WaMu building for $132/sq ft sure makes their construction loan underwater.

    Since real estate is so heavily leveraged even with 80% down, I don't think anyone at Brix or Gallery is going to be able to “dollar cost average down” by buying a second unit.

    If the Homebuyers credit doesn't get extended, there won't be much time after the Brix and Gallery auctions for buyers to close on units in other buildings and still get the credit.

  • Chris

    I don't think many people buying condos in that price range qualify for the credit on an income basis.

  • fukaduk

    @ eRIK k -
    interesting NYT article, but there is no reference to Seattle – did you send the wrong link?

  • Amir

    With most of the homes starting at $225k or less (33 under $200k), I don't see why not …

  • chris

    Dollar cost average?? Really? You must have rich parents or make 500 grand a year. That was possibly the dumbest piece of advice/comment I think I have heard.

  • rideaduck

    From the article:

    “Foresight estimates the biggest problems are in loans for condominium construction, with 38 percent of all construction loans troubled….Foresight’s estimates of the proportion of problem construction loans in the 20 largest metropolitan areas has one surprise: the one with the largest proportion of troubled loans is Seattle, where the recession has started to pinch.”

  • EconE

    Dude. You need to rescind that “dollar cost average comment”

  • realistx

    He has indeed drunk deep of the real estate Kool Aid…

  • Diego

    I walked through the Brix during the open house, and personally I felt it looked like cheap construction. Even for the half off price it would be a hard sell, and when it was going for the full asking I would have laughed. Assuming Gallery is at the same plaster board and ikea construction I'm not surprised its open house is getting such a luke-warm reception.

  • Name

    I love Brix's location and it doesn't look bad like so many other condos. But I just can't get over the monthly dues.

  • http://twitter.com/mattgoyer mattgoyer

    Actually the idea wasn't mine. I stole it from more than one reader who suggested it!

  • King

    I looked at the Gallery financials on their website. Why is there over $130,000 outstanding in HOA fees on their balance sheet? Are owners behind in payments already? That doesn't seem right.

    I'd ask the agents but frankly they are useless.

  • acarol

    I heard yesterday the Gallery developer was auctioning off the “lesser” units in order to turn over the project to the HOA and that the value of existing units should not be affected.

  • fk

    What does “Turning over the project to the HOA” mean? Are you implying that they want to earn a revenue stream from HOA?

    Does anyone know if existing residents are paying the same HOA?

    Lastly, i would think the auction would create a secondary market for all units in the building, regardless of when they were sold.

  • fk

    What does “Turning over the project to the HOA” mean? Are you implying that they want to earn a revenue stream from HOA?

    Does anyone know if existing residents are paying the same HOA?

    Lastly, i would think the auction would create a secondary market for all units in the building, regardless of when they were sold.