The Stranger on Belltown noise issues

The Stranger, Downtown Dilemma – Nickels’s Bar Restrictions Won’t Help Belltown Condo Owners Sleep Any Easier:

The Cooks, in other words, personify the kind of empty-nest Belltown residents we at The Stranger have vilified over the years. They moved to a neighborhood with lots of bars and clubs (fewer then, but still more than other parts of town) and now they hate the noise, they hate the smoke, and they hate the traffic brought into Belltown by hundreds of bar-hopping suburbanites every weekend night.

While I welcome later closing times I am unconvinced it will solve the noise problem; it will merely postpone the noise problem to a later hour.

Firstly, if I were concerned about noise but wanted to live downtown I wouldn’t move to Belltown. I’d move to Fifth and Madison or some other downtown development not near bars or restaurants. Or I’d move to a neighborhood like Queen Anne where you’re close to the action but get some peace and quiet at night.

Secondly, if I were going to buy there I’d buy in a building with air conditioning and well insulated windows.

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  • http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/ Mike D.

    Yet another reason why Lower Queen Anne continues to be the best all-around neighborhood for urbanites. Walkable to the city, and none of the noise.

  • http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/ Mike D.

    Yet another reason why Lower Queen Anne continues to be the best all-around neighborhood for urbanites. Walkable to the city, and none of the noise.

  • l.girl

    I’ve lived in both Belltown and Capitol Hill. I never had a problem with noise despite living near two neighborhood bars in cap hill. Belltown on the other hand, where I live temporarily right now, is beyond obnoxious on the weekend nights. The noise of people fighting and hooting continues on for hours after the bars close.

    Unfortunately, there’s nothing that can control the drunken stupidity of the general type of people that go to these bars, even changing closing times.

    Queen Anne or Capitol Hill are by far better neighborhoods to live and hopefully, I can move to one of them soon.

  • l.girl

    I’ve lived in both Belltown and Capitol Hill. I never had a problem with noise despite living near two neighborhood bars in cap hill. Belltown on the other hand, where I live temporarily right now, is beyond obnoxious on the weekend nights. The noise of people fighting and hooting continues on for hours after the bars close.

    Unfortunately, there’s nothing that can control the drunken stupidity of the general type of people that go to these bars, even changing closing times.

    Queen Anne or Capitol Hill are by far better neighborhoods to live and hopefully, I can move to one of them soon.

  • Joe

    People just shouldn’t move to Belltown if they don’t like noise. We lived there for almost 4 years and got very sick of it. We moved further donwtown and are much happier. Anywhere in the downtown core is still within close walking distance of Belltown and the other shopping and restuarants of the city.

  • Joe

    People just shouldn’t move to Belltown if they don’t like noise. We lived there for almost 4 years and got very sick of it. We moved further donwtown and are much happier. Anywhere in the downtown core is still within close walking distance of Belltown and the other shopping and restuarants of the city.

  • Bob

    It all depends on which side your apartment is facing and what floor it is on.

  • Bob

    It all depends on which side your apartment is facing and what floor it is on.

  • Gary

    Is 1st and Eagle still Belltown? pretty quiet up here. Not all of Belltown is obnoxious.

    Government needs to be careful not to go overboard here. The rules for Twist seem….well….stupid. Let the market play its role. In real estate it all starts with location, location, location. Those condos on second floor with no AC are worth less i’m sure. The problem is people buy looking for a value knowing full well u get what u pay for. The government should make sure it’s easy to get to zoning info and planning permits.

  • Gary

    Is 1st and Eagle still Belltown? pretty quiet up here. Not all of Belltown is obnoxious.

    Government needs to be careful not to go overboard here. The rules for Twist seem….well….stupid. Let the market play its role. In real estate it all starts with location, location, location. Those condos on second floor with no AC are worth less i’m sure. The problem is people buy looking for a value knowing full well u get what u pay for. The government should make sure it’s easy to get to zoning info and planning permits.